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SS: China Ready to Increase Indian Imports Amid US Tariff Concerns

Trade Balance Efforts: China’s Ambassador Xu Feihong stated that Beijing is open to buying more Indian products to help balance trade as US tariffs loom.

Current Trade Figures: India-China bilateral trade reached $101.7 billion in 2023-24, with India running a significant trade deficit. India’s exports to China totaled $16.6 billion, including petroleum oil, iron ore, marine products, and vegetable oil.

US Trade Tensions: President Trump plans to impose reciprocal tariffs on various countries, including China and India, citing unfair trade practices.

Diplomatic Developments: India and China have been working to normalize relations after their 2020 border clash, with recent engagements between PM Modi and President Xi Jinping indicating a diplomatic thaw.

BROWN-MUNDA_

And pigs can fly. But we both know that it will not happen. Indian exporters would still have a better experience navigating the American market despite tariffs relative to the Chinese market.

Choice_Ad2121

Indian exports to China is way too low. $16billion is nothing. If China does this it will be great but what has India got to export?

AIM-120-AMRAAM

What goods do India have that can be exported to China other than what we are already exporting?


The trade deficit with China is huge. Should get more investments and use the manforce to turn into a huge manufacturing hub.

CarmynRamy

China might be saying good things to keep all their options open but realistically what can we export to China that China isn't doing it already? China is better and cheaper than us in almost everything. If we could sell them something, we'd already be doing it

nishitd

SS: **Summary: India Urgently Pushing for US Trade Deal Amid Tariff Tensions**

India is showing unprecedented urgency in securing a bilateral trade deal with the United States, according to Foreign Minister S. Jaishankar. This comes after President Trump's imposition of **26% reciprocal tariffs on Indian goods** on April 2, despite plans for a trade deal announced during PM Modi's visit to the White House in February.

- **Jaishankar emphasized** that India is now more proactive than ever in pushing for the deal and has had more discussions with the US in the last six weeks than with the EU in two years.
- **India aims to finalize the agreement by fall 2025**, viewing it as a chance to strengthen its role in global supply chains.
- While the tariffs are a concern, India sees them as less severe compared to what some regional rivals face.
- Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal added that while India wants quick progress, it won't rush negotiations at the expense of national interest.

India is also negotiating trade agreements with the **EU and UK**, and recent comments from European leaders signal growing urgency on that front too—driven in part by Trump's return to the White House.

India is in an interesting position managing to be friends with both the US &amp; Russia. As the US tried to court India, India no doubt views it as a way to combat China. If the US is serious about pivoting towards more amicable relations with Russia (since I get some vibes that this is the vague direction of Trump) we could see some semblance of a plan here regarding isolating China.


Unfortunately I wouldn’t have done this in a way that blew up my existing alliances, but beggars can’t be choosers I suppose? 

I’m curious if my guess is correct

Symmetrecialharmony

Very doubtful anything successful will be signed. Case in point you can look up the tariffs imposed on Indian exports. Even recently they imposed an export ban of agricultural goods. Any deal would involve agriculture. So very doubtful

2plus2equals3

As much as people want countries to take principled stands against the US and to punish Trump the best thing for everyone is to make a reasonable deal and come to terms. India would suffer greatly under this new tariff and it won’t really help the US

arock121

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This is exactly the type of realignment we need. Move away from a near peer who is aggressive to a more accommodating ally, who is a regional power.

Gitmfap

Well, an US that can now be said to be truly, deeply commited against China (and ditched Pakistan), that now is searching for new exporters and not that concerned about that pesky human rights thing is very much an ally that India is interested in.

Will see how negotiations go, things are easier said than done, and there's egos clashing, but is possible.

OPUno

Then Modi better be prepared to bend over.

risk_is_our_business

Weird article...

India has one of the most consistent and predictable set of foreign policy relations out there.

It's just not one Americans or Europeans empathize with. They really aren't shifting in any significant ways. During the war in Ukraine, they have moved closer to the west (USA moreso) to counter China's influence and closer to Russia who has been increasingly sanctioned by the west.

That's the real definition of non-aligned/multi-aligned which India outwardly states is their foreign policy. 

They are a resource poor country of 1.4 billion people. They do not want enemies. Europeans especially cannot grasp that concept nor do they care to

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Submission Statement: Prime Minister Modi’s shift towards multialignment has deepened India’s ties with the U.S., focusing on defense, trade, and technology cooperation. During his meeting with President Trump, India agreed to deport undocumented migrants and fast-track trade talks. Modi also committed to increasing energy imports from the U.S. and advancing defense deals. This partnership allows India to modernize its military and economy while maintaining strategic autonomy.

India values its growing relationship with the U.S. amid Trump's disruption of global norms, especially with Russia and China. By strengthening ties with Washington, India seeks to secure economic and security benefits, while balancing its relations with Russia and managing ongoing tensions with China.

ShiroBarks

“Hong Kong (CNN) — Chinese leader Xi Jinping has said his nation is “not afraid”, in his first public comments on the escalating trade war with the US that has tanked international markets and fueled fears of a global recession.

“There are no winners in a trade war, and going against the world will only lead to self-isolation,” Xi told Spain’s Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez in Beijing on Friday, according to state broadcaster CCTV.

“For over 70 years, China’s development has relied on self-reliance and hard work — never on handouts from others, and it is not afraid of any unjust suppression,” Xi added. “Regardless of how the external environment changes, China will remain confident, stay focused, and concentrate on managing its own affairs well.”

Impossible_Piano_29

I am not particularly sure what is in trump's head. He should know that Xi has no election pressure and can play the dick contest as long as he wants

JoJo_Embiid

It’s going to hurt China badly, but an actual authoritarian with a population far more conditioned to economic hardship is going to weather the storm a lot better than a wannabe dictator with a population who’s enjoyed economic prosperity on a scale the world has never seen before.

HotelPuzzleheaded654

Trump do not have the cards, not even a trump card.

koyko4

Why would they be afraid? Trump has just surrendered global domination to China

waitaminutewhereiam

Trying to trade war with China is like trying to box the ocean. They don’t care. If anything the US is helping them through self-elimination.

thistlefink

Looking at the bond market …Xi is sitting pretty well

Sayhei2mylittlefrnd

A trade war with China makes absolutley no sense, also what happened to this free trade conservatives loved so much? But seem to think a sales tax on imports will somhow save our country and not just fuel inflation

childofatom789

Xi is a stone cold killer. Trump is a cowardly draft dodger that shits his pants. Nothing for China to fear.

RevenueResponsible79

US bond yields getting poked, markets down, USD getting slapped. Mango Mussolini folding like a piece of used arsewipe and pausing tariffs once the 10Y bond rose high enough.

It kinda makes sense Xi isn't shaking in his boots.

For Americans sake, given what's going on with the 10/30Y, their currency and such I sure hope nothing happens that would drive up the price of consumer goods for American citizens. .. like.. tarif--

*Oh no.* 

On a lighter note I think the Chinese responses over the past few days were much funnier, calling Trump a barbarian, shit-talking the quality of American rice. Smack-talking the rice was funny.

GhostsinGlass

They are definitely not afraid, their tariff is now 125%

[https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4jjw30d5qt?post=asset%3A0538e378-2d12-45cf-9780-936bfb49c73f#post](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4jjw30d5qt?post=asset%3A0538e378-2d12-45cf-9780-936bfb49c73f#post)

ersentenza

The US imports much more from China than China does from the US. Trump may not understand this, but he has from default given China advantage. It will cost the US more than it does China - it's basic 101 economics something Trump does not grasp.

Bitter-Elephant-4759

This is it. The end of the unipolar world the US has enjoyed since WWII. This was the test. It's been evident for a while that China was catching up to the US economically, but its military deficit -- although also catching up -- remained large enough that the US was seen still at the top.

To have China stay firm in the face of extraordinary tariffs and institute their own means that Xi believes they can weather the hit in US trade. They now believe they can forego the exports that they rode to economic superpower without severe repercussions. This is them saying to the US: We are not only no longer just your giant factory, but your economic equal -- and growing far faster.

I think a major crucial element here is that most experts seemed to \*expect the Chinese not to blink\*. They are not just bluffing back at Trump -- their resolve is firm and their economy robust and their trade partnerships strong enough to really go "all in" after Trump's series of increases.

Thewall3333

China shouldn't be afraid, Trump caves under pressure.

urlond

I can't believe as an American I'm saying this, Good China hold strong , fuck Trump.

leopard3306

What's to stop China from increasing taxes or fees or whatever they want to US companies with big factories? They could increase them by a million % and the company has to pay or shut down. There would be no lawyers or court, China has all the power in their country and can do what they want. It wouldn't necessarily be a good idea but they could do it and the companies can't do shit about it other than move to another country.

Bubbaganewsh

If both economies crash, Xi isn't the one getting fired.

skibbin

China just increased tariffs on US goods to 125%

BlackandRead

This will escalate to all out war when? I'm willing to put $10 on June 2025, can we get a pool going?

YggdrasilAndMe

When China starts F-ING  around with the US bond funds that they own,that’s when things will get real in the good OL US of A.

Okanaganwinefan

Congrats republicans, y'all destroyed America greatly again

NotVeryAggressive

Valledis

Fools rush in where angels fear to go. Look at Trump.

Human-Entrepreneur77

“Managing its own affairs well” burns POTUS and Xi with the mic drop.

hlm601

This is great.  We need to encourage this to go on between the two countries for a long period of time.

sh1a0m1nb

What a weird world.

The only time NATO article 5 has been invoked was by the US after 9/11 in which Canada came to our allies aid along with every other member nation. 

Now we are staring down the timeline of only for the second time a country invokes NATO article 5 and it will be against the US by most likely Canada or Denmark.

This is quite literally Putin/Xi’s wet dream.

PoliticalSasquatch

He flat out said that if we want to stop the tariffs and eliminate the trade deficit we have to join them. This is to be taken literally. This is the first step. He’s like a cartoon. He tells you the plan. We must become more independent of them. Tough times may be ahead. 

Greerio

This act effectively ends all alliances the US has.  The US cannot be trusted to uphold agreements and there is no way they could be counted on to defend NATO.

No matter what they do to Canada, this is a heavy price to pay.

RazerRadion

Time to make other alliances and agreements.  Time to de-couple everything from the USA.  

A lot of people want to willfully ignore the existential threat that Trump, his Robber Barons, and the MAGA-ites represent for Canada.

The threat is real and the wolf is literally at the door.

Spanky3703

This is a hostile act from a foreign actor. It's only a matter of time until NORAD and our other bilateral security agreements break down.

They want an Anschluss - don't give it to them.

farm-to-table

If the US and Trump don't want to honour an agreement (USMCA aka. NAFTA v2) that Trump himself negotiated and signed with us we should not honour contracts we signed with them. I propose that we start pirating US made movies, music, TV, software, and games. If you are already doing that, great! teach someone else that do not know how to. But make sure that you are only doing this for US products.

FalconsArentReal

Over my dead body and I suspect a lot of others dead bodies would Canada become part of the USA. 

We need to massively increase and spend on our armed forces and make sure we are not buying American. We need to make it clear we are not going to be taken over under any circumstances.

Canadianman22

"Is it economic warfare? My answer to that is: not yet. But that's not to say it can't get there."

Yes it is. It may just be the start but this isn't some trade dispute. He has no demands and his goal is to hurt the Canadian economy plane and simple. People need to open their eyes and stop ignoring his imperialist goals like it's not happening. It's happening.

Boycott American goods. We don't need the government to enforce it we can do it ourselves.

I have long believed that a person can only have as much power as people are willing to give them. He has no power over me, I will give him none.

zerocool256

We will never be a fucking state. I hope the rest of the world is ready to fight this asshole with us because if he comes for fucking Canada he is going to be coming for them next.

Thanolus

we should cancel the f-35 and order other jets, like the rafale, anyway they cost less

KingNarwhal23

While Trump destroys his country slowly and pisses off his allies, China quiet waits in the wings for the time to strike and become the primary global superpower. I’m afraid it’s already in motion. 

And as a Canadian, all we can do is resist the power struggle and try to remain firm.

Shadow_Raider33

Having a buffer state that is friendly has always been best for security. What a moron.

__TheWaySheGoes

Time to divest ourselves from the US, improve the military while we can, and look at acquiring nuclear weapons. We don't want to be Ukraine to the American Russia.

lcdr_hairyass

Americans “controlled” and manipulated the system so china wouldn’t get the powerful semiconductors they needed YET they were able to create a better and massively cheaper program.  Canada can’t over react rather use this opportunity (and I do mean opportunity) to get oil and gas flowing in THIS country to ports so we can move it to places that need it just as badly.  Europe  needs it, let’s get people to work in this country (as the recession is coming) and work our way out of this temporary problem.  Can’t believe I’m advocating for oil and gas… congratulations irony… you win…

Ok-Conclusion-6878

I’m not joining the US under “economic force”. It’s going to get a lot uglier than that.

CovidBorn

I’m afraid this twat will threaten us with military action next. It’s only a matter of time.

Kyray2814

By saying they’ll increase tariffs if Canada retaliates, they’re making a tacit admission that Canadian tariffs will harm the US.

HardeeHamlin

We all should write to our MPs to ask for them to negotiate and sign commercial treaties with literally any other country and BREAK interprovincial barriers. And as a Quebecois, it's time we let the pipeline pass. It's in our collective interest and the argument that we can just send it to the biggest market in the world without passing in QC just doesn't work anymore.

The_Golden_Beaver

lol and people thought he was just trolling when he was talking about Canada becoming a state. This guy is dead serious and he's hella mean mugging. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump#/media/File:TrumpPortrait.jpg

Poiuyt5555

Trump is a fucking moron who can’t seem to grasp the simple concept of economics and how this benefits no one. What a prick and I pray for his downfall everyday.

superboringkid

Maybe Canada needs to designate Trump and his whole crew as a terrorist group..

Radiant-Vegetable420

More and more is making him look like a Russian puppet.

All of this is destabilizing western economies.... even the US.

I am curious if 40/50 years from now he will be viewed as todays Benedict Arnold.

Itchy_Training_88

How is the government not reconvening for this? I don’t think it can overstated how fucked this is. There must be talks of decoupling from the U.S and expanding trade partners and making new deals right?

Capital_Network4032

Maybe we should build up our military again instead of being pussies and relying on our neighbours. At some point we all have to recognize that the US is no longer the friend and ally we once had.

Truont2

What I can’t get over is why the American people would vote somebody in with zero integrity, who is stupid, who is a liar, who is a convicted criminal and rapist. Can’t stand this brain dead asshole Trump.

Time-Run5694

We need nukes, countries with Nukes don't get invaded.

BirdzHouse

Wretched Americans voted for this. The traitors have stabbed us in the back and want to punish us for falsified, nonsensical reasons but their own characteristic vulgarity. Never forget they did this, they are our enemies and should be treated as such forever from this day.

GhostOfWalterRodney

Time for Canada to increase its NATO spending… by buying nukes. 

Timely_Mess_1396

MiRo4758179

If it came to a full war, wonder how many Americans (civilians &amp; soldiers) would push back.

TomorrowsOvation

We should all just be saving our money. Consume less, hold down.

LengthClean

I will not be blackmailed by some ineffectual, privileged, effete, soft-penised, debutante. You want to start a street fight with me bring it on but you’re gonna be surprised by how ugly it gets, you don’t even know my real name- I’m the fucking lizard king.

- Canada

holmwreck

Thewolfofsesamest

-LittleStranger-

Once again, Canada needs nukes. Not expensive ICBMs, just little ones that go in backpacks. That's how seriously we should take this BS from TFG.

mycatisJamesBond

Don't attend games and concerts with American teams or performers. Turn your back or refuse to stand up if the anthem plays. Don't cross the border for games or concerts or shopping. They voted for this.

urbnplnto

It’s interesting times thats for sure. We will either become more united and patriotic and stand against tariffs and annexation talk and talk steps to block economic warfare and reinvigorate our sense of identity. 

OR …..

we will see cascading negative effects from our already fragmented society. A large part of what made us Canada was the combination of former British colony with a french step brother kinda vibe and together we straddled not quite being American but also not quite being British or French. Demographically though we have been changing..a lot. Between extremely high levels of immigration in recent years from countries that are not as culturally aligned as an anglosphere country …well those people who are here as first generation Canadians or immigrated themselves and came from places like India or Pakistan or Philippines etc …they are going to be far less invested in what little Canadian identity culture we still have.  There is a fundamental difference between our population coming from roughly European people, largely UK British and having a lot in common….vs much more radically different cultures. Its not always something people are comfortable saying without sounding racist but its not like we are taking in millions of Australians or New Zealanders or Brits or Dutch or Ukrainians anymore…those countries dont have people leaving to look for new places to live in the numbers they did in the late 19th century. 

Meanwhile the crazy right wing albertans and daniel smith types will keep talking separation and being sympathetic to maga America. And Quebec is always one or 2 steps away from seriously looking at separation themselves. Add in the people who actively want to get rid of the monarchy and the large number of people who are indifferent to if it continues or not. Then our collective shame for treatment of First Nations peoples. 

And then add in the reality of social media making us arguably even more indistinguishable from Americans.

Also Economically as we are seeing…we have all our eggs in the American basket….we can’t replace american customers with cobbling together other far flung much smaller markets. 

So while annexation is not going to happen in Trumps 2nd term….if the next  President is also a MAGA republican who continues the tarrifs against us…well ya its going to be hard to prevent it from happening over the next decade or 2. It wont happen from military invasion and it wont happen from tarrifs alone. But if they keep up economic warfare and it they use disinformation campaigns (like have been used against them)…they can stoke our internal divisions to the point of Constitutional crisis and break up of Canada and America picking up some or all of the pieces. 

It sounds like fantasy sci fi ….but its moving out of that category and into the possibility category over next generation or less.

YYZYYC

LastNameOn

If anyone on Cheeto Man's cabinet can read beyond a Where's Waldo level, should point out that Canadian's when provoked go from nice and polite to bat shit crazy.

LebowskiLebowskiLebo

Volderon90

Time for major change. Fight back hard and recreate our Economy that does not rely on USA.

Stop all oil and gas. Time to fight for our freedoms.

Nickyy_6

We need nuclear weapons immediately. We had them and shouldn’t have given them up. Delivery mechanisms are irrelevant when there’s a 4000km unguarded border between US and Canada.

cptmuon

Write to, email, call etc your MPs. Demand they increase mitary spending dramatically, and ease the inefficiencies of procurement. Let them know you're okay with a couple percent higher taxes to do it. 

The one thing Trump is right about is that we have for too long relied on the US to defend us. We can no longer be sure they will, and we can't even be sure they aren't a threat.

We need a dramatically stronger military. Not because we have any hopez regardless of how much we spend, on stopping an invasion. But because we have far more leverage if they think an invasion would cost thousands of American lives and take at least weeks. As it stands, they could destroy our ability to resist in hours. It'd be a fait accompli. It'd be done before internal opposition in the US population, legislature, and military, or international reaction could stop it. At this point they have the option to ask for forgiveness instead of permission (from their people, the courts, the military, the international community, etc). We need to take that option away. It doesn't guarantee success, but it does guarantee hope and improve our leverage before it could even come to that.

Strengthen our military.

LJofthelaw

Fuck Trump and his expansionist wet dreams. Not happening.

512115

If someone woke from a 12 year coma they’d never believe you this total nutjob is in office. Trump is cracked man.

SoloSolo11

Well at least he's uniting Canadians together!

1baby2cats

Between joining the US or enduring some hardship while we take time to forge better trade partnerships with countries that aren't the equivalent of a meth head with ADD. 

BRING ON THE HARDSHIP.

CaptPants

I don't like fighting; I am a pacifist. BUT. Over my dead body will we EVER become part of the USA.

lexcyn

much love from an American. Don’t let them convince us that this is about Canadians and Americans. This is about billionaires. This is a strategic push to increase nationalism in all countries involved. We are divided only by borders. The working class of our countries should stand as one (as well as Mexico). 

I am stuck in deep red rural north Georgia. In the past when I thought about worst case scenarios, I always thought I’d be able to figure out a way to get to Canada for safety. The thought of not being allied with Canada just never even crossed my mind at all, I reckon from a combination of naïveté, optimism, and privilege. I don’t want to see the relationship between our citizens change. 

I am following Canadian news as closely as I can and hope you guys don’t share the same fate as the US.  Election integrity is increasingly nebulous with Musk and others exploiting our social media algorithms.

dpforest

I get it's not in our "national culture" but if Ukraine is anything to go by, Canada should have started developing a nuclear weapons program yesterday. No treaties or promises of good faith impede tyrants. Trump would be a lot less reticent to invade if we had even 3 or 4 nukes to threaten their cities with.

Ikea_desklamp

This is the first step for him to take the Northwest Passage. He already referenced this last week when he expressed frustration with the Panama and Suez Canal. If we are weakened financially then it will be easier to take. 

Watch the video: 'Why Canada Is Russia’s Biggest Threat' on You Tube.  It should actually read, Why Canada is the USA's Biggest Threat, but no matter. 

If we are crippled financially, he will be able to take it and they will make billions of dollars in the future. Even China is trying to make a play for the north. Not to mention all of our resources.

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